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Original Message 1/48 24-Nov-05 @ 12:57 AM - making a pilgrimage

Jack

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Check out my avatar! That's me on Bicknell hill! For all you Dogtown headz...

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Message 2/48 24-Nov-05 @ 10:47 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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you have a beard....hehehehe

greg

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Message 3/48 24-Nov-05 @ 11:13 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

Jack

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Yeah, but in the background is Bicknell hill, where Team Zephyr would skate after surf sessions
at the P.O.P pier.
Here's a pic of me in front of the original Jeff Ho shop on Main & Bay streets.
Skateboarding and music technology go hand in hand, right?
All this stuff is from the flick 'Dogtown and Z-boys' btw.

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Message 4/48 24-Nov-05 @ 11:14 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

Jack

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In front of Jeff Ho shop...

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Message 5/48 25-Nov-05 @ 05:29 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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sportin quite a womb broom there dude

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Message 6/48 25-Nov-05 @ 07:41 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

Jack

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Yeah well, y'know, shaving blows.

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Message 7/48 25-Nov-05 @ 09:18 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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are there other beards among us?

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Message 8/48 25-Nov-05 @ 09:37 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

monkeybasket2001

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i have trouble squeezing bum fluff out....

i wanna see that film- really liked the one he did on big wave hunters- sick sick boys....

greg

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Message 9/48 25-Nov-05 @ 11:20 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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i normally get 3 or 4 days in and then it annoys me too much and i shave it off. it starts to go gingery at that point anyway so i'm best shot of it

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Message 10/48 25-Nov-05 @ 12:53 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

monkeybasket2001

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yeah its far too itchy if ya dont eventually shave it- plus beards make you look...ahem...well...

greg

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Message 11/48 25-Nov-05 @ 01:18 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

milan

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eek... its a terrororist!!!

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Message 12/48 25-Nov-05 @ 03:30 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

Jack

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Ok, I saw Dogtown and Z-boys and made a solemn vow to not shave until I hung out in Santa
Monica for an afternoon. Thus the pilgrimage is complete.

Yeah dude, beards make you look like ,um uh, you don't shave!

The second week itches do suck, but after that third week you can kiss the razors and shaving
cream goodbye.

Anyway the beard's not the problem, I promised the guys in my band that when I cut my hair, I
would play a gig with a mullet!

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Message 13/48 25-Nov-05 @ 03:38 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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ok what i was reffering to was that beard on young guys generally make them look like boring old men- not you though- you dont look that young

i just dont trust beards- or musatches for that reason- dunno why....guess its something i should see a doc about...

greg

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Message 14/48 25-Nov-05 @ 03:45 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

Jack

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Well that's better than these people I know who have a pitbull who they swear is "the nicest dog
in the world" until it's snapping jaws are inches from my face and they suddenly remember "oh
yeah, she does'nt like men with beards..."

yeah, how's that for a run-on sentence...

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Message 15/48 25-Nov-05 @ 04:38 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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seperated at birth! - Jack & Zakk

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!

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Message 16/48 25-Nov-05 @ 04:40 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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uncanny eh....

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Message 17/48 25-Nov-05 @ 05:48 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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apart from the finger and the blonde, it's the spitting image of young jack.

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Message 18/48 25-Nov-05 @ 09:51 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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I'm a hairy Gael I can understand to a certain degree why people in hot countries might want to experiment with shaving but in Northern climes like Scotland why do people want to expose their faces to the freezing cold.Hair grows so why not let it?

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Message 19/48 26-Nov-05 @ 01:41 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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Well, I've gotta admit, there is a resemblance, even beyond all the hair. I saw him play with Ozzy
in 87' and he was totally skinny. He has defeated the less work ethos by braiding his beard.
Maybe he had the lady do that for him...

Pict, I worked outdoors through a cold winter when the beard got started, so I'm with you on the
weather bit.

But wait, I was hanging on Bicknell Hill! Did'nt anybody see Dogtown?

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Message 20/48 28-Nov-05 @ 06:03 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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wait...JACK, jack? the one whose band I saw in Santa Monica a few years back? completely forgot the band name..sorry...but you sure didnt have that terrorist beard. you look mean as fuck dude! wheres the chopper? are your "bros" right around the corner dealing meth and beating up people?

heh. a skate pilgramage. gonna go to NM to skate the ditches?

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Message 21/48 28-Nov-05 @ 09:38 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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Hair grows so why not let it?
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because on some people it can make them look like an old man- we had a guy at our school who was dewveloped and at 16 grew a beard- he went from nerd to 40 year science teacher in one week....

there should at least be an age limit..

greg

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Message 22/48 29-Nov-05 @ 05:00 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

Jack

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Influx, yeah I was in LA yet again with All Mighty Senators. Too bad we could'nt hook up (you're
in OR now , correct?) , I could've actually shown you a little style as I was being treated pretty
well on this tour. We played at HOB on Sunset. Shit! We could've smoked weed on our tour bus!
But y'know, I had to hook up with the 'Club' and jam it up to Berdoo to meet with Sonny and Free
Wheelin' Frank before we went to the Janis Joplin concert at the Fillmore...
Actually I do have a bike sitting in my garage awaiting the sawsall. With as little time as I have,
it's either make beats in the basement or turn wrenches in the garage. Or more realisticly, do I
buy this microphone or this triple tree? The basement's been winning every time. I entertain the
fantasy at http://www.chopperunderground.com. It's like dancetech but choppers...
Where's Digital Rust? I tried finding him, too.
Yup, before I hit the ditches, I gotta hit the pipes in AZ!

As for age concerns, every day I'm alive is a day closer to grumpy old man I was born to be.

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Message 23/48 29-Nov-05 @ 09:53 AM Edit: 29-Nov-05 | 09:53 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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i just dont trust beards- or musatches for that reason- dunno why....guess its something i should see a doc about...

greg

Yeah, I think they call that pogonophobia. Apparrently Margaret Thatcher was a pogonophobe and wouldn't let any bearded men in her cabinet. And she definitely wasn't right in the head. That'd be enough to make me worry, Greg.

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Message 24/48 29-Nov-05 @ 12:01 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

monkeybasket2001

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yeah but if i went to my doc and he had a beard....

greg

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Message 25/48 29-Nov-05 @ 05:47 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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it's an observable and much verified fact that there are those who were simply born into this world much-too-good-looking and without their beards most other poor saps (who have to shave every day EVERY FriGGING DAYof their most modern suit-wearing corporate/governmental wanna be cold[play existences) wouldn't have a chance at a girl whatsoever.....or boy for that matter....
so you know it's simply their way of kinda evening out the odds for ya.

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Message 26/48 30-Nov-05 @ 12:31 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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holy crap it _is_ "that" jack.

sorry for forgetting the name of your band, dude. I would have never took you for the biker type. didnt really know you skated, either. guess I never asked.

I dont need to see a chopper site. used to be a passion of mine, but I went other directions, and now with the bastard weekender yuppies snatchin up the $40k bikes...everyone wants $15k for their 88 POS.

probably never own one, tell the truth. and I could never grow a real beard like that. if I could Id be all over it!

rock on.

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Message 27/48 30-Nov-05 @ 02:03 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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Aw man, you GOTTA check out chopper underground! It's all about the low budget d.i.y.
chopper. A lot of awesome chopped Jap bikes, great forums, all that stuff.

Hey man, I like that loose'n sloppy jam! How do you like the RS7k?

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Message 28/48 30-Nov-05 @ 08:20 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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holy crap, man. I forgot completely about that!

I like(d) the RS but just never could get a feel for numbers sequencing like that. I prefer me a SCREEN.

miss the touchy feely HW, and the RS had some neet FX....I banged that out in one take. totally forgot.
it was a very capable sequencer, decent sounds, cool effects. never got the beat slicer to work. as a whole the unit was kinda finicky and complicated.

I was very keen on the new Roland for a while, since you can attach a screen and use a mouse, but I decided to just stick with the computer.

will check out those forums
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Message 29/48 01-Dec-05 @ 03:24 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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influx...i thought you were going to coloroado tuesday or 3 months ago....

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holy crap, man. I forgot completely about that!

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Message 30/48 01-Dec-05 @ 03:25 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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That does'nt surprise me about the rs7k. I have an rm1x and it has some weirdness to it that I've
never quite gotten around. Of all of those HW units , the mpc's seem to be standing the test of
time. I'm attracted to the mpc1000 . Kinda cheap, USB, and those lovable rubber pads.
I have an sp1200 and it's an awesome piece of gear. Fun and easy to use. I don't know why
emu did'nt do an updated version. They did those hardware joints with the onboard sounds , but
no sampling. I love working with the sp's sequencer. fast and easy.

I might get an mpc, but I need to start getting my head around ableton live anyway. Just got it ,
need to put the time in...

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Message 31/48 01-Dec-05 @ 08:52 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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I might get an mpc, but I need to start getting my head around ableton live anyway. Just got it ,
need to put the time in...
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the thing i love about my mpc is the ability to tap beats in on the fly- of course i hear you say you can do that with a keyboard but there is something about the pads that works better.....it means if you have a tight enough rhythm (somnething that varies day to day for me) you can double ya tempo and wack half time beats in on the fly and they generally always sound pretty loose and funky...

apply any sort of quantized swing and you have that amercian rn'b sound (not that you'd want that though)

greg

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Message 32/48 01-Dec-05 @ 09:11 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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How about those mpc style pads with the usb connection. Anybody use those? Seems like a
nice compromise. My buddy Landis just got a Roland SP20 - percussion pad. That works great
too. You get to beat the shit out of it with sticks. Also you can do drum rolls and more
sophisticated stick technique (provided that you have said technique).
Still, hardware is hardware. I don't think all those hip hop heads would still be sticking to the
mpc for no reason.

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Message 33/48 01-Dec-05 @ 09:19 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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D-Town & Z-Boys. One of the best docs I've ever seen. Sean Penn does a great job as narrator.

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Message 34/48 01-Dec-05 @ 10:50 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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mcc> wrote:

influx...i thought you were going to coloroado tuesday or 3 months ago....

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holy crap, man. I forgot completely about that!

yeah and I was telling you to fuck off about the same time, too, no? yup. I was. still sayin it, actually

I'll not be held accountable to anyone. especially not you, clay. fuckin dad has fucking cancer so Im sticking around. is that ok with you, you bitter piece of shit?

wanna send more fucking venom my way, like attacking my mother verbally for being a christian? youre still a good for nothing angry old man, so eat SHIT.

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Message 35/48 01-Dec-05 @ 10:52 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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jack. take a long hard look at the new roland. kicks ass all over the MPC4000, and especially the 1000.

sorry for the bipolar responses but this clay fucker is a fucking rattlesnake waiting to strike and I wont stand for that bullshit. fuck you clay. how about we meet in person, but NOT for beers?

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Message 36/48 01-Dec-05 @ 10:55 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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Jack wrote:

I dont think all those hip hop heads would still be sticking to the
mpc for no reason.

oh come on acknowledge! its because most of them are fucking STUPID! lets be done with it! theyre moronic, uneducated people...I mean god DAMN how hard is it to work an MPC? seriously!

the MPD thing..the pads via USB...triggering is horrible. absolute bullshit

want a good drum trigger? something you can use your hands or sticks?

Alternate Mode DK-10. period. There are other versions, of varying expense, but the DK10 does the trick absolutely perfectly

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Message 37/48 01-Dec-05 @ 11:41 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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oh come on acknowledge! its because most of them are fucking STUPID! lets be done with it! theyre moronic, uneducated people...I mean god DAMN how hard is it to work an MPC? seriously!
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woah the venom is with you my son....

im no hiphop affliate and agree that its ease of use attracts them as well as the whole prolific biter culture but that dont make em stupid- they just wanna use a machine they can hit beats into and isnt sub-menu after sub-menu after sub-menu....the roland stuff may look better in spec but damn the roland ui has been shit for years and they are only trying to compete- not doing anything new so therefore by the same logic are dumbing down there own products..

yar pad thing would work but its still a pc innit....depends if ya like making music on a calculator-

greg

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Message 38/48 03-Dec-05 @ 12:47 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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deal with enough idiots you start calling them idiots, greg.

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Message 39/48 03-Dec-05 @ 12:02 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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sorry your dad has cancer.

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Message 40/48 03-Dec-05 @ 12:51 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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eh?

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Message 41/48 03-Dec-05 @ 08:31 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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Jezus Clay...

Anyway, the MPC kicks ass fer making beats... denying that is not making a very smart impression there ;)

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Message 42/48 03-Dec-05 @ 10:03 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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you too marty?....what did i say?

i'm about ready to get my cock sucked.

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Message 43/48 03-Dec-05 @ 10:05 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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you misspelled jesus you fuck.

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Message 44/48 04-Dec-05 @ 07:04 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

beds

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you missed social skills class

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Message 45/48 04-Dec-05 @ 08:48 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

Maarten

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Let's see you get into a discussion with me in dutch, german or french- see how well you bring that off red-neck. What am I doing here anyway?

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Message 46/48 04-Dec-05 @ 08:49 PM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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Ohh yeah, pointing out that the MPC does kick butt

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Message 47/48 05-Dec-05 @ 02:49 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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ah..the dutch-master calling me a redneck in english. i like that.

i always liked you maarten.
i expect some things will never change.

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Message 48/48 05-Dec-05 @ 09:00 AM - RE: making a pilgrimage

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deal with enough idiots you start calling them idiots, greg.

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yeah i work at a special school too......bit ott was all i thought

greg

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