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Subject: A new "vote yourself to the top"
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Original Message Date: 26-Feb-02 @ 08:37 PM - A new
NINTENDO? WHAT THE FUCK?
my man...you might be taking yourself just a LITTLE too seriously
better start voting EVERY DAY so you can see your name at the top of the shit hot DT chart!
Message 61/88 05-Mar-02 @ 12:42 AM - RE: A new
come on, now! commercial success is certainly an indicator of validity, no?
Message 63/88 05-Mar-02 @ 02:16 AM - RE: A new
I am shooting to get to the level and beauty of what the Hartnoll brothers do. Sometimes people have heard that desire in my tracks and I am very encouraged and flattered by it. I know I have a long way to go in that, but if you're going to start a talent pissing match with me, your in way over your head amigo. I'm totally confident and tested by peers in my own musicianship, but it doesn't make me happy to see you getting down on anyone else. And it really doesn't become you. Enjoy all the styles you hear at dt. I do. I learn from everybody here and appreciate some amazing tracks I hear at dt, including yours.
Message 64/88 05-Mar-02 @ 02:45 AM - RE: A new
Brett..you can do what you like, of course, and you can write all the music you want with the basic intention of selling it, but I for one (and many others Im sure, here at DT and elsewhere) are 100& convinced that the minute you let that be your motivation (commercially "viable") the heart just falls out never to be found again
SURE you might sell some singles, or an album, or whatever, but there are plenty of us here who really couldn't care less about that aspect if it involves artistic compromise. I can say for sure that everyone would LOVE to make money doing something that comes from the heart, but i can also say that the ones that get into this sort of thing with the intention of "getting big" are the ones that stand out like a pustulating infected wound (and should subsequently be cut out and tossed away)
so there you have it. Commercialism SUCKS, plain and simple. Idont know where you truly stand but you come in here calling people "cocks" again and you probably won't be standing much longer
try some humility on for size as well, son.
sitar...that is ONE FUCKING LONG RESUME!!!!! now quit the LOOK AT ME shit;)
Message 65/88 05-Mar-02 @ 02:53 AM - RE: A new
Nope. I was surprised to hear Brett say that type of thing. Had to let him know how clueless one can be judging the talents of others who are sincerely aspiring and learning....like me :P
Message 66/88 05-Mar-02 @ 03:43 AM - RE: A new
Message 67/88 05-Mar-02 @ 03:59 AM - RE: A new
"It's funny you mention Orbital. The fact that you would equate the talent you or the likes of the rest of you cocks who needless don't respect others opinions, to being anything close to Orbital in style or skill. What a joke."
OK, first..the cocks thing. Brett...I have this image of you in my mind, and if it is accurate you are just another geek who hasnt really done much living, and youre clearly angry about it. But calling 'us' cocks (Im sure you had yours truly in mind when you wrote that) is, well, pussy. hehe. cocks and pussy. If you werent so full of yourself (as you so obviously ARE it wouldnt be so annoying to read what you write, because you seem to have a pretty good handle on REASON )
You can sit in your bedroom studio making tracks for other people siting in there bedroom studios.
Hey..if someone enjoys doing that, good for them!
Or you can make some decent music that will get played for a real audience who is willing to pay.
on my way, baby. Puttin out a 12" this month. Might even SELL some records! But..it doesnt sound like hybrid so it's probably not good enough.
Have it your way, and keep complaining about who does or doesn't belong on the charts......because it's realy realy realy important!!!!!
No one was complaining about who 'belongs' there. I, for one, am just sick of all these fuckers modelling the commercial world, where its all about self-promotion and that sort of nonsense, and PRETENDING to be all fucking artistic about it. Smug, self important ninnys who write a page long synopsis of a fucking instrumental track.
"really , ...lemming....., That's rich! hahah"
yes. lemming. because youre constantly pushing whats "hot" out there...as if youre some groundbreaker when in reality perhaps youre more of a salesman, like the types at guitar center and sam ash who jump on the newest "tool"(toy) and claim that its the best thing since sliced bread.
and on top of all that, sitar could write you into a corner, my friend.
watch the lame name calling and you won't get shit from folks.
commercial. the word itself makes me want to retch
Message 68/88 05-Mar-02 @ 05:17 AM - RE: A new
Let the amatuers be amatuers about how they promote themselves, and quit dising people because they are not as logical about arranging there songs etc. You tore one guy a new one for having a 9 minute track. Hell Orbital has a bunch of them and if that's what you are trying do then , you better get started learning how to make 9 minutes oof music that keeps you interested and surprised. There are ways to deliver constructive critisism without the humilation and abusive tone you take. People are sensative about what they create and if sucks don't just say it sucks. Give your expertise in a way a mentor would. Also quit quantifying everyone here with stereo typical definitions. You are not the Law of the land, and it's time you started showing others some respect.
As for pushing expensive gear.. What where and when? If someone says hey what can do this, i simply state what may or may not work, wether from what I read or what ever. Food for thought. as for the guys at GC etc. I condemn the way they sell a newbie stuff they don't need. It happend to me when i first started. If you see all my threads i promote cheap solutions as well. Namely standing behind Reason.
Message 69/88 05-Mar-02 @ 05:25 AM - RE: A new
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Q: who's album are those quotes scanned from?
Message 70/88 05-Mar-02 @ 05:34 AM - RE: A new
eh?
I have yet to tell someone a track sucks. not ONCE have I said that to anyone. Sure...I give people shit all the time, for being typical followers adhering to standard modes of promotion, presentation, etc.
again, not like I'm such a groundbreaker
oh..and btw...so you were calline ME a "cock".
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